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YUKISO 27-01-2010 02:14 PM

Re: Feedback on Bazaar Indulgence
 
we are going to orchard police station tonight.

YUKISO 27-01-2010 02:18 PM

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I pm you already, pettycloset

viberzdae 27-01-2010 02:37 PM

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hi... can pm me the details? i might be able to join too.

minglin85 27-01-2010 03:04 PM

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Hi I was one of the victims too. However, they have refunded me already.
The reason I posted this reply is because I have two more similar cases by other event organisers.
Firstly, Imperial Sarah Zhang last min cancelled the Hougang Hub bazaar which we have paid $1675 deposit two month ago. Even though they have refunded us two days after, I still have something to reveal to fellow vendors. From the very beginning, they have never secured any bazaar at hougang hub because the current organiser in charge of hougang hub CNY bazaar is my friend. They have secured this contract long time ago and there is no such thing as last min cancellation. Just think twice if they ask you to choose another alternative venue.
Secondly, another organiser named AKALAME, his company name is Youthbox. A few month back he claimed that he has one event at tampines mall @$80 for two days. I had registered and on the day itself, he told me I am the only tenant and there is no crowd....no point to go...he promised he will refund the full amount to me asap, but until now I nvr receive any refund. Then last year Dec, he posted one thread under letting go retail space saying he got 2 lots letting go at $300 per weekend at Far East Plaza Atrium. Lately ppl found that there is no such mentioned event on the dates he mentioned. Then he was barred from this forum.

Adeclost 27-01-2010 03:10 PM

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Dear All

AMK Police just called me with regards to my report.

They said Police is unable to do anything because this Organiser did
successfully held events before & that they did not mention they are not
refunding to us, only that they keep delaying.

So the Police officer incharge suggested that we could engage a lawyer to
file a suite against them or we file a claim at the Small Claim court.

Should we gather together & file?

YUKISO 27-01-2010 03:30 PM

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police say so because I treat it as breach of contract, which is I mention before, this is criminal, not breach of contract.

the thing is police did not know the whole story of these two ladies, this is not the first time they cheat ppl refering to senior push forum user.

prettydress 27-01-2010 03:42 PM

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Nowadays join Bazaar has to be extra careful many bogus organiser come into forums to cheat money.
Anybody know this organiser Bazaar en route? They are holding a Bazaar in Far East plaza Atrium on 27th/28th Feb.Want to know this organiser trustworthy or not?Thought of joining.

viberzdae 27-01-2010 03:44 PM

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It is probably not considered breach of contract if they scammed more than 1 person right?

I hope police will seriously look into this case after so many reports about them.

Adeclost 27-01-2010 03:48 PM

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But I did mention to the officer who spoke to me on this that I am not the only victim, but there a few more & some I believed have already filed a report... Yet this is still what she told me...

Anyway just keep me updated on this... I am not going to just let them off like that... This is too much!!

Rob82lim 27-01-2010 04:02 PM

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ORANGE came back with another nick and company's name.
Don't understand why got to earn this type of money again. :mad:

viberzdae 27-01-2010 04:10 PM

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Girls becareful of what u all say in this forum.. I believe they are parking inside here to get latest info.

viberzdae 27-01-2010 05:11 PM

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Anyway, dont give up ladies...

http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache...t-2465690.html

Here is an example of blogshop lady jailed for scamming 37 people.

YUKISO 27-01-2010 05:44 PM

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try to do what we can.... so far, no one get refund from them right?

and if this is not first time they cheat ppl, police should take consideration, it is criminal...

KawaiiKingdom 27-01-2010 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob82lim (Post 18121)
ORANGE came back with another nick and company's name.
Don't understand why got to earn this type of money again. :mad:

Hahas... YOu know about Orange? The one whom I exposed last year July? =D
THey are back again for more! =X

KawaiiKingdom 27-01-2010 07:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YUKISO (Post 18127)
try to do what we can.... so far, no one get refund from them right?

and if this is not first time they cheat ppl, police should take consideration, it is criminal...

Not first time I guess. =X All you all do now is united together as one. Go report police. Make sure it is not a single scam but a lot scams. This will allow police to make action. Next, file claim against this person. Even if go to court, as long as you win the case, these people will pay the fees, and not you guys. :clap:

prettycloset 27-01-2010 08:33 PM

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Hi prettydress,

if you need far east organisation person-in-charge to check whether if that event is confirm, you can pm me...

prettydress 28-01-2010 10:07 AM

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Want to join bazaar in Far East Atrium on 27th/28th Feb check with Far East Org. person in charge says no bazaar on that day. I am so ???:confused2:
Bazaar en route advertise this date in Pushcart forum under BAZAAR.

urbanlight 28-01-2010 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prettydress (Post 18139)
Want to join bazaar in Far East Atrium on 27th/28th Feb check with Far East Org. person in charge says no bazaar on that day. I am so ???:confused2:

This is bad.... what are these organisers thinking??

urbanlight 28-01-2010 10:13 AM

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This is bad.... what are these organisers trying to do?

efashionshop 28-01-2010 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by viberzdae (Post 18122)
Girls becareful of what u all say in this forum.. I believe they are parking inside here to get latest info.

yupz..tink she is right...

perhaps shld msn one another or chat somewhere...once they know wat u are doig n chattig..prob they know their strategy n their next move le.

prettydress 28-01-2010 11:13 AM

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I think these small time organiser wanted to rent the place in Far East or other venues but they do not want to commit themself with money.They advertise first get enough people to pay them than they only lease the venue, if not enough vendors they cancel the bazaar.

Uniquez 28-01-2010 12:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prettycloset (Post 18029)
Updating for those who is still following up with this case:

I've filed a police report against this organizer and was informed by the police officer that there is currently no pending charges against her and since my case is an individual one, I'll have to take action against her by making a claim at the Small Claim Tribunals (SCT) myself.

I therefore sincerely urge all victims to do the same and file a police report against her. If there is several police reports made against this organizer, the police will treat this case as criminal fraud and take actions against her.

For those who are lazy to go to the police station, simply file a police report online at this web:

http://www.spf.gov.sg/epc/index.htm

Under the E-services, there is an option to "Lodging a Police Report: A Crime or Lost Property". Details to include in the report are:

(1) Date & Time of application for 'bazaar name'
(2) Date & Time of payment made fm 'yr bank account nos' and to 'organizer bank account nos'. Do state down if you happen to received any acknowlegement of receipt of pyt fm organizer.
(3) Date & Time of email received informing change of event date
(4) Date & Time of email received informing cancellation of event
(5) Conclude saying that till now no money was refunded fm the organizer, with her name and contact (pm me if you need the name & hp)

I will not hesitate to make the claim at SCT and will definitely make sure I claim her the $50 lodging fee together with the rental fee of $160! Will update any new happenings again.

Hi, do u know that u can claim more from BI thru Small Claim Tribunals (SCT)? Your taxi fare ? also the time wasting and loss of profit ?

Uniquez 28-01-2010 12:23 PM

Re: Feedback on Bazaar Indulgence / Far East Bazaar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prettydress (Post 18139)
Want to join bazaar in Far East Atrium on 27th/28th Feb check with Far East Org. person in charge says no bazaar on that day. I am so ???:confused2:
Bazaar en route advertise this date in Pushcart forum under BAZAAR.

Hi, the reason is simple, they dun have the mean /or prefer to use the collected rental to pay Far East Org to secure the place, so they are trying to advertise n get the rental first in order to build up the capital n once is enough, will book from Far East Org. Most small biz start from this way, Organizers also worry, if they book the venue first, and no one sign up, they lose money.

Rob82lim 28-01-2010 02:19 PM

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wah so good, so low risk or even no risk for this type of business, still can collect the money for rolling first.

viberzdae 28-01-2010 02:28 PM

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Can I know the outcome of yesterday's police report? anyone can pm me? thanks.

efashionshop 28-01-2010 03:28 PM

Re: Feedback on Bazaar Indulgence / Far East Bazaar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uniquez (Post 18148)
Hi, the reason is simple, they dun have the mean /or prefer to use the collected rental to pay Far East Org to secure the place, so they are trying to advertise n get the rental first in order to build up the capital n once is enough, will book from Far East Org. Most small biz start from this way, Organizers also worry, if they book the venue first, and no one sign up, they lose money.

hi, u r right...many businesses start this way..they want a win win situation..same like online preorder...they collect $ from customer n deliver gds ltr..then they wontbe stuck with inventory.

same for this case, they collect $ from vendors so tt they wont get stuck with a paid space with no vendors...

however, the risk is abt managing it well, timing and planning...if u do it well n lucky, tts gd....if NOT, like this case, then problems starts arising.

N i mentioned before tt why they wont refund or delay cld be due to cash flow mis management as well as holding u on as a vendor for their next event..

just tt simple.

viberzdae 28-01-2010 11:10 PM

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Prettycloset, viberzdae, yukuso and one other vendor, jamie are at amk police station lodging a report against bazaar indulgence. According to e police, they are going to start investigation cause there are more n more complainants.

We had actually went down to nus bazaar to look for iris and jane. But they did not refund us.

For those who have not received your refunds, we strongly urge you to lodge a police report asap! May justice be done!!

cosimowoo 29-01-2010 04:25 AM

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can seek help from newspaper?????

prettydress 29-01-2010 07:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cosimowoo (Post 18165)
can seek help from newspaper?????

Yes you are right.:)

sunrise73 29-01-2010 10:50 AM

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Im also one of the victim. Im so lost now. Should i report to police or file for small claims??? damn it!!!

Anyway I read from other forums that the organisers had a booth at NUS and a few went to confront them.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh...2653614&page=1

YUKISO 29-01-2010 12:15 PM

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For above, please report to police ASAP, they are no intention to refund money to us. and we already gather the evident.

pls go to AMK south police station,there is an officer very nice, he know the full story of us, just tell them you are treated by Jane and Iris, and other ppl already report to police, you are seeking help, we already show the evident to them, they are accepted.

pls feel free to report, more ppl, more power.

prettycloset 29-01-2010 12:33 PM

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yeah pls report to the police, don't need to wait anymore!

when we confronted them yesterday, they even dare to say that they never force us to trf $ to their account and it is we who voluntarily trf $ to them!!!

what's more now they r telling us there is a 3rd party in BI and that 3rd party now in overseas and when we press them, they gave us this 3rd party as Jamie Loo 8333-3641.

upon checking out, we realise that it is the same contact nos of LLEvent!!!

http://retailbx.sg/resources/bazaars...l-square-1115/

obligiously scammers!!!

yet these 2 daylight robbers are going scot free and jalan jalan selling in other peoples bazaar!!!

viberzdae 29-01-2010 01:34 PM

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These people claimed that they got no money to return us...

but see

They got money to buy LV, Dior.... cant believe... they are spending our money like that....

prettydress 29-01-2010 05:37 PM

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Any body get an email from Su Iris,she is one of the BI organiser? She emailed me stated that she longer with BI,she already transfered most of the money to those tenants that transfer to her account POSB 198-22467-7 if any one miss out call her at this number 93380052.

If those that transfered money to Jane's account POSB Saving 189-51566-9 or saving plus 005-3-084923 and did not receive the refund call this number 92287483 . If she refuse to refund the money, Iris advice to go to the police or small court tribunals and she offer her asistance.She also note that Jane is flying to HK on Sunday.
Now I understand why some get a refund and some don't.:)

pokerface 30-01-2010 12:29 AM

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hi all, i was an almost-victim of Orange for the singapore expo event. almost join the FEP flea market, thank goodness for the various forums that i got to know what happen before i reg.

Admin, are u able to put up a blacklist of the various identities of this person and the various names of the event company? this way other members can be aware of which organisers to avoid. thanks

bobblebath 30-01-2010 03:29 PM

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i'm a victim from this bazaar saga... and sad to say i only found out these today...
however, i'm going to amk south police station to lodge a report in a while...
anymore advice anyone?

viberzdae 30-01-2010 06:19 PM

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hi

do u want to check ya account? Jane refunded all vendors already in an sms 30mins ago...

prettycloset 30-01-2010 10:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by viberzdae (Post 18194)
hi

do u want to check ya account? Jane refunded all vendors already in an sms 30mins ago...


TRIUMPH!!! Though justice was not served but I'm glad to get back my hard earn money...

Cheers for those who have united in this BI saga and all those who has lent their support in the fight against unethical organisers, like BI...

Hippie Hooray :yippee:

prettydress 30-01-2010 11:19 PM

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I am happy to hear that all vendors get back their hard earn money.Better be careful in future choosing organiser.
Anybody join Feb 27th/28th Bazaar in Far East plaza,dare not sign up yet I check with the person in charge Far East plaza atrium she said no bazaar on that date.Maybe organiser did not rent that place yet.

viberzdae 30-01-2010 11:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prettycloset (Post 18196)
TRIUMPH!!! Though justice was not served but I'm glad to get back my hard earn money...

Cheers for those who have united in this BI saga and all those who has lent their support in the fight against unethical organisers, like BI...

Hippie Hooray :yippee:

All can treat ourselves to a big big meal!!!! thumbs up for effort!


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